Catholic Bishop Robert Barron and political science professor Patrick Deneen discussed the modern understanding of freedom in a recent interview. Barron described it as a “society of little tyrants” where individuals prioritize their own desires above all else. They contrasted this perspective with ancient Greek and Christian views of liberty, which focused on virtue and the common good. Barron emphasized that true freedom involves disciplining one’s desires to achieve virtue.
Deneen, author of “Why Liberalism Failed,” criticized the breakdown of contact between elite Americans and ordinary citizens. He noted that contemporary elites often have limited interactions with regular people, leading to a disconnect between different socioeconomic groups. This separation contributes to the political divide and the concentration of power among a few individuals. Deneen suggested that structural changes might be necessary to address these issues and advocated for a postliberal future in his book “Regime Change.”
The interview also touched on the impact of liberalism on society at every level, including the breakdown of family and social institutions. Barron and Deneen agreed that an understanding of liberty as freedom from obstacles has contributed to these problems. They emphasized the importance of reevaluating the concept of freedom and returning to a focus on virtue and the common good. Barron argued that government’s purpose is to make people good, rather than simply allowing individuals to do as they please.
Deneen’s book “Why Liberalism Failed” was praised by former President Obama, who noted the insightful analysis of the loss of meaning and community in Western societies. Despite disagreements with some of the book’s conclusions, Obama recognized the valuable insights it offered. Barron and Deneen highlighted the need for a more holistic understanding of freedom that incorporates virtue and emphasizes the importance of working towards a common good. They urged a shift away from the self-centered view of freedom prevalent in modern society.
