In a conversation between Bret Stephens and Gail Collins, they discuss what advice they would give to recent graduates in a commencement address. Stephens emphasizes the importance of cultivating an inner life, reading for pleasure, avoiding social media distractions, and preserving independence of mind. He also encourages forming genuine friendships, not just seeking followers on social media. Collins adds that while student protests can be important, it’s essential to consider the impact on others, especially during graduation ceremonies.

The discussion then shifts to the Stormy Daniels scandal involving former President Trump, with Collins highlighting the lack of new information that could change voters’ perceptions of Trump’s character. They also touch on Speaker Mike Johnson’s surprising role in the GOP and the potential implications of the Antisemitism Awareness Act recently passed in the House. Stephens expresses concern over the broad definition of antisemitism in the legislation and advocates for addressing antisemitism through education and civil society rather than through government intervention.

The conversation further delves into economic issues, with Collins praising President Biden’s economic adviser Lael Brainard for calling for tax increases on the wealthy to fund tax cuts for middle- and lower-income families. Stephens, however, argues that higher taxes on companies and the wealthy can have negative repercussions on consumers, employees, and shareholders. He warns that historically, tax increases have led to political backlash against Democrats at the polls.

The discussion concludes with reflections on Biden’s potential reelection and the impact of abortion rights as a key issue for voters. They also discuss the legacy of advertising genius Mary Wells Lawrence, who overcame gender barriers in the industry to become the first woman to own a major ad agency. Through her determination and chutzpah, she exemplified the power of overcoming obstacles in pursuit of personal goals. Overall, Stephens and Collins engage in a thought-provoking exchange covering a range of political, social, and economic topics.

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